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Balrog1978 · Sep 29, 2005, 08:33 AM // 08:33

Hi,
I have a W/E char.These are teh stats for my attribute distribution (approximate..am writing frm work..dont have access 2 GW

I went on a quest with a W/N lvl 11 yesterday. In travellers vale. I noticed.. that he was being hammered by the Ice Elemetals and ittens and was taking some damage..while I was getting PULVERSISED. I'm wearing COMPLTE Gladiator armor with minor rune of absorption on 5 tiems and minor rune of vigor on remaining 2.

11/Sword
9/Str
4/Tactics
2/Earth

BUT STILL i got plummelled. What am I doing wrong?? Its embarrassing 2 be lvl 12 and get a pounding I (probably) dont deserver...

Help please.

All Hail!!
Balrog

Gustav Gloomp · Sep 29, 2005, 08:36 AM // 08:36

runes DONT STACK. if u put 2 minor absorb runes on u it will only work as if ur wearing one rune. what skills r u using?

huh · Sep 29, 2005, 08:46 AM // 08:46

Umm...first of all, how did you manage to equip 7 runes?
"minor rune of absorption on 5 tiems and minor rune of vigor on remaining 2."

Secondly, yeah runes don't stack.
Even if you're using 2 different grades they don't stack.
And did you not notice no difference in your total health after you put in the 2nd vigor rune?

So you actually need to craft your armour again, sorry to say.

cagan · Sep 29, 2005, 08:48 AM // 08:48

No need to recraft his armor ... his error isn't actually hurting the armor at all, and new runes will happily overwrite the old.

What is the AL of the armor your gladiator armor? .. do you know whether the guy you roaming with was wearing droknars armor?, that could account for the difference somewhat.

Saner the Stoner · Sep 29, 2005, 08:50 AM // 08:50

try to use you Ele to protect yourself a little.

i dont know if you get the skills at that point in the game, but Ward Against Foes for example makes like a little easier.

huh · Sep 29, 2005, 08:52 AM // 08:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by cagan

No need to recraft his armor ... his error isn't actually hurting the armor at all, and new runes will happily overwrite the old.

Ahh sorry my bad.
Never had to do that before so I didn't know you could replace the old rune.

Naprius · Sep 29, 2005, 08:52 AM // 08:52

this makes me think up another question

i have platemail 1.5 k from droknars
and knights gauntlets from droknars.
my health is 510. i put in Major rune of absorption (didnt have one) and it stays 510.

do the gauntlets and rune dont mix?

huh · Sep 29, 2005, 08:54 AM // 08:54

Absorbtion doesn't increase your health.
It reduces damage from attacks.
Minor: -1
Major: -2
Superior: -3

Balrog1978 · Sep 29, 2005, 09:01 AM // 09:01

ahhh sorry..
I meant..3 items RoA and 2 Items RoV
1 Rune of absorption on helm
1 Rune of absorption on Chest armor
1 Rune of absorption on boots
1 Rune of Vigor on gauntlets
1 Rune of Vigor on Sword(i think..)

Hmm as for skills, I use :-

For Great Justice
Server Artery
Gash
Frenzy
Power Attack
WildBlow
HealingSignet
Endure Pain

any updates with this?????? I dont use any tactics except FGJ!!!!

PS: I NEVER stacked up any runes...how did THAT start????

huh · Sep 29, 2005, 09:05 AM // 09:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balrog1978

1 Rune of Vigor on Sword(i think..)

Its leggings

P.S. I'm not answering much about your build cos I don't play W/E so I don't know about it.
Just answering what I know about runes (one of which turned out to be wrong but I'm only human

)

Balrog1978 · Sep 29, 2005, 09:09 AM // 09:09

kk..Well does my build LOOK like a tanker for his level and armour??

If yes, then I guess my W/N has either a better char from which he's got better armor or he "ran" to get it from shiverpeaks somehwere..coz It JUST isnt possible he could take on 3 ittins and Ice eles in Travellers vale for his lvl(11)...

Plzz comment!!

Balrog1978 · Sep 29, 2005, 09:10 AM // 09:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naprius

this makes me think up another question

i have platemail 1.5 k from droknars
and knights gauntlets from droknars.
my health is 510. i put in Major rune of absorption (didnt have one) and it stays 510.

do the gauntlets and rune dont mix?

I think Runes of Absorption protect u against DAMAGE..wont affect ur HP.
Runes of Vigor do that..correct me if Im wrong!!!

blane · Sep 29, 2005, 09:11 AM // 09:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balrog1978

ahhh sorry..
I meant..3 items RoA and 2 Items RoV
1 Rune of absorption on helm
1 Rune of absorption on Chest armor
1 Rune of absorption on boots
1 Rune of Vigor on gauntlets
1 Rune of Vigor on Sword(i think..)

any updates with this?????? I dont use any tactics except FGJ!!!!

only 1 Rune of absorption is needed and the rest of absorption runes will be wasted as they dont stack.Same goes for the Vigor too. And you can use runes only on armors.(sword is impossible).
You can use better armor set(higher AL lvl) to reduce damage. You may wear armor that reduce damage on it(e.g.Ascalon Armor or Knight Armor).You can also use defend skills like armor of earth from earth magic(which will make your movement slower though).

huh · Sep 29, 2005, 09:13 AM // 09:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balrog1978

PS: I NEVER stacked up any runes...how did THAT start????

By using more than one of the attribute rune, you already attempted to stack the effects of the runes, which won't happen.

Balrog1978 · Sep 29, 2005, 09:15 AM // 09:15

Hmm..

But dude, I see on ALL items on which Ive applied the runes of absorption..a comment .. Protects from Damage..or something equivalent. I was reading somewhere, that damage in GW is fragmented. ie, on Chest its MAX, lesser on leggings nad helm..and LEAST on boots. Consequently, peeps suggest wearing Knights boots against Gladiators.. Wont the same ideology apply for runes? If i apply runes on Chest armor..i get MAX benefit for attacks(-1 damage)..ditto for helm and leggings...if I apply runes there...

Or have I got this logic wrong?

Naprius · Sep 29, 2005, 09:17 AM // 09:17

dont the runes decrease health anymore?

tafy69 · Sep 29, 2005, 09:18 AM // 09:18

runes are applied globally, so wherever u get hit the absorbtion rune will kick in. And about the absorbtion from knights or ascalon armour it supposed to work on specific parts of the body, but apparently that works globally too altho i dunno if they patched it yet.. anyone know?

huh · Sep 29, 2005, 09:21 AM // 09:21

The argument about whether the absorbtion effect is locational or universal was long.
And I chose to believe SonOfRah's conclusion - its universal.
Therefore, where you put the rune of absorbtion does not matter. As long as its in any one of your armour pieces, you get the benefit no matter where you are hit. And I think this only makes sense since runes do not stack.
Same goes for knight's or ascalon armour. Just one piece will suffice and you get the full effect of damage reduction. This part does not make sense to me but hey, if someone has done tests and experiments, who am I to go against him? I'll just take his word for it unless I can come up with my own theory backed by proof.

Balrog1978 · Sep 29, 2005, 09:22 AM // 09:22

ahhhh...good...

so basically, nothing wrong with my armor/attr combo then???

huh · Sep 29, 2005, 09:25 AM // 09:25

Dude, read through again.
The first reply already tells you there's something wrong with your armour (or the runes in the armour).
But then again, no other rune that you put in will affect your defense status, except maybe tactics.
So switching around the runes wouldn't help you survive longer anyway.

Sep 29, 2005, 08:33 AM // 08:33	#1
Balrog1978 Academy Page Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Guild: Chi Profession: W/E	What am I doing wrong? Hi, I have a W/E char.These are teh stats for my attribute distribution (approximate..am writing frm work..dont have access 2 GW I went on a quest with a W/N lvl 11 yesterday. In travellers vale. I noticed.. that he was being hammered by the Ice Elemetals and ittens and was taking some damage..while I was getting PULVERSISED. I'm wearing COMPLTE Gladiator armor with minor rune of absorption on 5 tiems and minor rune of vigor on remaining 2. 11/Sword 9/Str 4/Tactics 2/Earth BUT STILL i got plummelled. What am I doing wrong?? Its embarrassing 2 be lvl 12 and get a pounding I (probably) dont deserver... Help please. All Hail!! Balrog

Sep 29, 2005, 09:01 AM // 09:01	#9
Balrog1978 Academy Page Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Guild: Chi Profession: W/E	ahhh sorry.. I meant..3 items RoA and 2 Items RoV 1 Rune of absorption on helm 1 Rune of absorption on Chest armor 1 Rune of absorption on boots 1 Rune of Vigor on gauntlets 1 Rune of Vigor on Sword(i think..) Hmm as for skills, I use :- For Great Justice Server Artery Gash Frenzy Power Attack WildBlow HealingSignet Endure Pain any updates with this?????? I dont use any tactics except FGJ!!!! PS: I NEVER stacked up any runes...how did THAT start???? Last edited by Balrog1978; Sep 29, 2005 at 09:06 AM // 09:06..

Sep 29, 2005, 08:36 AM // 08:36	#2
Gustav Gloomp Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia	runes DONT STACK. if u put 2 minor absorb runes on u it will only work as if ur wearing one rune. what skills r u using?

Sep 29, 2005, 08:46 AM // 08:46	#3
huh Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Hou Lan Geng [HLG]	Umm...first of all, how did you manage to equip 7 runes? "minor rune of absorption on 5 tiems and minor rune of vigor on remaining 2." Secondly, yeah runes don't stack. Even if you're using 2 different grades they don't stack. And did you not notice no difference in your total health after you put in the 2nd vigor rune? So you actually need to craft your armour again, sorry to say.

Sep 29, 2005, 08:48 AM // 08:48	#4
cagan Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2005 Profession: Me/Mo	No need to recraft his armor ... his error isn't actually hurting the armor at all, and new runes will happily overwrite the old. What is the AL of the armor your gladiator armor? .. do you know whether the guy you roaming with was wearing droknars armor?, that could account for the difference somewhat.

Sep 29, 2005, 08:50 AM // 08:50	#5
Saner the Stoner Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: Stoners In Ascalon Profession: W/E	try to use you Ele to protect yourself a little. i dont know if you get the skills at that point in the game, but Ward Against Foes for example makes like a little easier.

Sep 29, 2005, 08:52 AM // 08:52	#7
Naprius Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: mtricht Guild: Limburgse Jagers Profession: W/Mo	this makes me think up another question i have platemail 1.5 k from droknars and knights gauntlets from droknars. my health is 510. i put in Major rune of absorption (didnt have one) and it stays 510. do the gauntlets and rune dont mix?

Sep 29, 2005, 08:54 AM // 08:54	#8
huh Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Hou Lan Geng [HLG]	Absorbtion doesn't increase your health. It reduces damage from attacks. Minor: -1 Major: -2 Superior: -3

Sep 29, 2005, 09:09 AM // 09:09	#11
Balrog1978 Academy Page Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Guild: Chi Profession: W/E	kk..Well does my build LOOK like a tanker for his level and armour?? If yes, then I guess my W/N has either a better char from which he's got better armor or he "ran" to get it from shiverpeaks somehwere..coz It JUST isnt possible he could take on 3 ittins and Ice eles in Travellers vale for his lvl(11)... Plzz comment!!

Sep 29, 2005, 09:15 AM // 09:15	#15
Balrog1978 Academy Page Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Guild: Chi Profession: W/E	Hmm.. But dude, I see on ALL items on which Ive applied the runes of absorption..a comment .. Protects from Damage..or something equivalent. I was reading somewhere, that damage in GW is fragmented. ie, on Chest its MAX, lesser on leggings nad helm..and LEAST on boots. Consequently, peeps suggest wearing Knights boots against Gladiators.. Wont the same ideology apply for runes? If i apply runes on Chest armor..i get MAX benefit for attacks(-1 damage)..ditto for helm and leggings...if I apply runes there... Or have I got this logic wrong?

Sep 29, 2005, 09:17 AM // 09:17	#16
Naprius Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: mtricht Guild: Limburgse Jagers Profession: W/Mo	dont the runes decrease health anymore?

Sep 29, 2005, 09:18 AM // 09:18	#17
tafy69 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2005 Profession: N/Me	runes are applied globally, so wherever u get hit the absorbtion rune will kick in. And about the absorbtion from knights or ascalon armour it supposed to work on specific parts of the body, but apparently that works globally too altho i dunno if they patched it yet.. anyone know?

Sep 29, 2005, 09:21 AM // 09:21	#18
huh Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Hou Lan Geng [HLG]	The argument about whether the absorbtion effect is locational or universal was long. And I chose to believe SonOfRah's conclusion - its universal. Therefore, where you put the rune of absorbtion does not matter. As long as its in any one of your armour pieces, you get the benefit no matter where you are hit. And I think this only makes sense since runes do not stack. Same goes for knight's or ascalon armour. Just one piece will suffice and you get the full effect of damage reduction. This part does not make sense to me but hey, if someone has done tests and experiments, who am I to go against him? I'll just take his word for it unless I can come up with my own theory backed by proof.

Sep 29, 2005, 09:22 AM // 09:22	#19
Balrog1978 Academy Page Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: India Guild: Chi Profession: W/E	ahhhh...good... so basically, nothing wrong with my armor/attr combo then???

Sep 29, 2005, 09:25 AM // 09:25	#20
huh Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2005 Guild: Hou Lan Geng [HLG]	Dude, read through again. The first reply already tells you there's something wrong with your armour (or the runes in the armour). But then again, no other rune that you put in will affect your defense status, except maybe tactics. So switching around the runes wouldn't help you survive longer anyway.